There are over 10,000 members here on PI. How many of us KNOW that our well-being and abundance is not dependent on world economics, the price of oil, the stock market etc. BUT rather on our own vibrations...AND that we control our own vibrations..?
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Started by Bronny NZ Jun 12, 2011.
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Comment by Bronny NZ on July 17, 2011 at 8:07am Hey there ~ yes, you're right of course... I see what I see... and that is that this system is going to crumble... and the planet won't be able to sustain 7 billion people, mostly who live in cities and who depend on Oil for the farming (urea, pesticides), the manufacture, the packaging and the transportation of their food. It's unsustainable : ) I'm not sad, stressed or worried about it. It's just a fact.
Oh OK. Cool. I'm glad you can thrive within a Revolution. That's quite outstanding !! Well done !!
Wow !!! "... the Mistress of my own Destiny". That's quite a claim!! My life has worked quite differently :D Yes, and there's certainly been miracles in there too :D ... but i've just had to "catch the wave" and go with it and Trust that whatever place I get 'beached' is the perfect place for me at the time. I've tried the whole 'mastery' thing and becoming the "Mistress of my own Destiny" stuff. It's not OK for me. I end up in weird places when I don't remain fluid and keep my mind open to possibility.
Yes, quite. I understand your pragmatism and I certainly take no offense: "I started this group to link up with and find others who believe the same". I hope you do find others Mara with whom you can do the work you want to do. All the very best : ) As far as your last question:
Are you the Mistress of your own Destiny?
"Hell No !!! " Really ?? Do people have this kind of 'tied up in knots' ideation as a goal... strange.... Life would be far less fun I think if I knew how it was gonna turn out :D See you. Nice comparing notes :D
*paddles out to sea again to see where the next wave will 'land' her* *waves*
"Bye"
Transformation - you seem to life in fear waiting for a dreaded catastrophy which you are ready to survive. You obviously don't subscribe to the belief in Law of Attraction. I intend to thrive whatever the circumstances. All the questions you raise you can find the answers to in the teachings of Abraham. I found them 12 years ago and they transformed my life with major and minor miracles. I see, experience and feel the contrast periodically and happily am now practiced enough to be able to re-focus my attention on what I want as opposed to the lack of it and it works. I can change my circumstances in a few hours.
I am currently living in Egypt in the midst of a revolution and contrast is all around me, thankfully I am thriving not just surviving (I have my moments of just surviving and they provide me with opportunities for expansion and further growth).
I think if I had not found out about LOA I would probably have either killed myself or be in a deep depression thinking about the end of the stick where the financial systems of the world are disintegrating, thankfully I can now focus instead on the other end and the magnificient future that is ahead of me (experiencing it every day) and the world in general once enough people get sick of focusing on the drama and give up. (in your language surrender to the love and will of the Creator)
I could go on and on but I think you have got my point. No, my well being is not dependent on world economics or anything else. I am the Mistress of my own Destiny and I started this group to link up with and find others who believe the same - you don't so really you should choose another group to join. I am not being nasty - just honest. Are you the Mistress of your own Destiny?
Comment by Bronny NZ on July 16, 2011 at 9:18pm Hi Mara : )
The words and phrases that really stand out to me in your Introduction to the discussion above are:
(1) our well-being is not dependent on world economics
(2) Abraham say... [people] who thrive under any and all conditions
(3) decision to... thrive
(4) "recession" has nothing to do with [you]
(5) the "road less travelled"
(6) emotional, physical and financial independence
(7) Abraham says (if anyone has the direct quote please tell me) that coming together when each individual in the group is coming from a place of personal power is a good idea for the purpose of more expansion and growth.
(8) "dreaded" RECESSION
(9) the WEATHER
(10) supposed threat is our financial... survival
(11) I believe it is all caused by the amount of attention focused on it
(12) this group... to focus on how we are thriving in these times
(13) add to the expansion of good health, amazing wealth and endless joy!
Well, it would seem that your introduction raised my eyebrows more that once !! :D I'll go through each point and offer you another perspective : )
(1) our well-being is not dependent on world economics... Where do you get your food from? Do you buy it with money? Where do you get your clothes from? Do you buy your clothing with money? Do you make your clothing? Do you buy the materials to make this with money? How do you stay warm in winter? Do you flick a switch? Who 'owns' that switch and makes that switch work? Does it cost them money to keep that switch working? Does it cost you money to keep that switch working ?? I could keep going... but i've touched on some basics: Food, Clothing, Warmth... The other necessities of life are: Housing, Water, Clean Air. The only thing you are possibly obtaining for free at the moment is your air... and even then, for many billions of people, this air is not clean and it's making people sick ~ pollution from Industry ie: a bosses try to make money.
I think that our well-being is very much dependent on world economics... The only way that your statement would be true is if well all lived on mortgage-free land, all produced our own food, generated our electricity needs, cooked using sustainable methods such as a renewable timber source - trees grown and felled on our own property, burned a wood stove with iron hot-plate griddle and perhaps with additional fire places indoors for additional warmth. Do you have these things Mara? If not, you are dependent on world economics...
(2) I don't give undue 'belief' in Abraham. When we all search within, we find the Truth. Running off to various lectures, seminars, meetings, suckling off someone else's Truth (albeit an off-world entity or entities) is again saying to our Eternal Being ~ you don't have the Truth in you... you have to go somewhere else to find the Truth... So once again we get caught in the dependency wheel as we try to assimilate someone else's Truth as our own.
Look for your own Truth Mara. Look within. Look without. And then you will find your Truth : ) Like Jesus says: "The Truth will set you free." What is this Truth? Jesus said: "I Am the Way, the Truth and the Life." Now was Jesus really referring to Himself as the Way, the Truth, the Life ??? Or was he referring to the concept "I Am" ??? I Am as I Am existing only because The Great I Am indwells Me. "I Am" the Truth. All I need to do is stop and listen to this Truth in me... and I find all the answers I ever need in this life... not by listening to someone else... not even Abraham.
(3) I make a decision to survive and I decided I would be one of the 'survivors' 35 years ago as a teenager... we all saw 'it' coming... even away back then : ) in the mid-1970's. Whether I "thrive" within that process is yet to be found out. I have my seeds, I have my spades, rakes, barrows, some ground sheets to collect rain water, some ability to light a fire out in the open so I can keep warm. I have some dry goods - mung beans, chick peas, organic wheat that I can plant. Whether I 'thrive'... that is to be seen ???
Many are not "thriving" Mara as many earlier posts point out. We are all one Collective Consciousness... all intertwined. How can, seriously, I be thinking about my own prosperity and "thriving" when I see a little 5 year old in Somalia last night on my nice shiny TV pumped through to me by my electricity company who I can pay money to for its supply because I am one of the lucky ones who has a job... and I see a little boy who is all bones because of the most terrible drought in East Africa since the 1950's, out there on the Horn of Africa. He is an expression of Creator. He is dying. In what way is Creator dying?
Have I stopped listening to Creator? Have I cut down nearly all of Creator's beautiful rain forests so that I can have that bar of chocolate neatly packaged at my corner store? Yes I have. Does the Palm Oil produced from the land that once had beautiful rain forest on it abundant with bird life and flowers and orangutan and Sumatran tigers and natural-living people... people all now swallowed into "urban drift"... has all of this Life been destroyed simply to produce Palm Oil which goes into nearly every food item I have taken from the supermarket shelf this week? Yes it does... And I then wonder why Creator is expressing as wretch'ed ??? It is completely logical once one begins to think about it a bit more clearly.
(4) The Recession has EVERYTHING to do with us... because our complicit acceptance of this financial system for the last 3, 4, 5, Hundred years... no, too short a time... in fact, for the last 4, 5, 6 Thousand years, ever since someone pressed a coin into the hand of a slave in Egypt and said, "Here... now you are a "free man"... Come and make as much of this money as you like... because now I have freed you from slavery. Oh, by the way, the only way you can get more of this coin, this money, is by coming back to me, and I will slowly give it out to you... enough to keep you alive... but I will keep the larger portion of the profit for myself and my descendants."
It all happened that long ago Mara. This is the story of money. Now... who in their right minds wants to continue to be a part of this system... who in their gut wants to continue to trade their Lives for money? It is illogical... when all of Creation has gifted to us already exactly what we need for a happy life.
(5) please tell me, what is this "road less travelled" ?? which apparently leads to:
(6) "emotional, physical and financial independence" Surely you must be talking about returning to our Pristine Origins here... a return to the Land and generating, growing all that we need. This is the only meaning I can get from this 'road less travelled' leading to 'emotional, physical and financial independence' ie: no need any longer for a monetary system :D Yay !!!
(7) NO-ONE is in a position of "personal power" while they are still actively trading in this money system ~ working, getting paid, buying commodities... It's all part of The illusion put in place for us by those in technocratic power.
(8) It is a "dreaded Recession" Mara. I know 1929 is a long time ago, but some people still remember the hunger, the mass homelessness of people, "the dust bowl" of the 1930's I believe they called it, the sickness... wave upon wave of people drifting on the dry dirt earth of America... falling waste in their thousands by the road side in their drift... and what were they trying to find ??? ...what exactly? Someone to press a coin into their hand. How sad.
Indeed... it is a "dreaded RECESSION". And do you remember what happened in that 1929 Recession Mara ?? President Hoover signed over The American Federal Reserve as a Private Company !!! to the holders of currency at that time of recession, in 1932 I believe as a way out of the Recession he thought. He sold the USA out to English, French and German stake-holders. And who is the United States of America beholden to right now ??? !!! The American Federal Reserve. Funny that !! I see that "The Plan" has finally hatched... and it didn't even take 100 years :-/ How gullible all of us SLAVES are. Gee, and you thought you had to be a person of color to be enslaved *shrugs*
(9) The weather ~ I see this again like I see the Somalian boy... an expression of fury an outrage of Creator... We have fouled up the beautiful Earth, mistreated Her and taken Her out of balance. Whenever something falls out of balance, there is an equal and proportional reaction to that falling out of balance. The way humanity has treated the resources of this beautiful Earth is WAY OUT OF BALANCE... You have to agree ??
(10) It is a very REAL threat, and it WILL impact on our ability to survive
(11) Is the current financial crisis "caused by the amount of attention focused on it" or because we have all been in the slumber of complicit-ness out of which we are now Awakening !!! :D and we are for the first time in many Millenia re-seeing it for what it is ??? :D
(12) apparently in the 2000's not many people are "thriving". If you'd put out this call in the 1990's you possibly would have been inundated with responses. This time currently is not so kind.
(13) This has by-and-large been answered to above. We can indeed "add to the expansion of good health" by living simply on the land... we can gain "amazing wealth" but it won't be in monitary terms... more in the wealth of our relationships with other people, the Land, with Creator... and certainly "endless joy!" is abundantly available:
"Co-creation and joy in its contemplation"
And how do I know all this stuff? How do I think I know about all this stuff? Because i've nearly finished reading the 7th book (out of 9) of the "Ringing Cedars Series" in which Anastasia the Siberian recluse tells all of these things to Vladimir Megre about our 'lost' history (suppressed actually) and the potential for us to return to our Pristine Origins'. Check these books out Mara :D They're just amazing. Love to you... from Bronwyn
Ringing Cedars of Russia Series, Book 4 "Co-creation" by Vladimir Megre, p. 8
http://ringingcedarsnewzealand.ning.com/
Comment by Bronny NZ on June 12, 2011 at 10:30pm I just want to alert all you good people to the fact that the "prosperity" of the West is actually derived from the poverty of the under-developed nations.
When American consumer mentality finally recedes and gives way to something much higher than itself... this will be the West finally "Waking up from 'The American Dream'."
I'm sure this quote will raise a few heckles... and basically... Good !! We all need to think about how our 'investment dollar' is impacting the planet and her peoples ~ whether your investment dollar has been polluting and ruining another part of our precious planet... or a group of people who don't have Corporate Funding to enter into large law suits to defend themselves.
I'm sure many will be aware of the 'carryings on' of Coca~Cola in Bolivia over the last decade and other 'small' nations for example... extracting the natural, available and free water source to such an extent that whole villages have had to relocate simply because the water table has now become so low that their own village wells and bores are no longer able to bring water up for the people. And yet Coca~Cola keep right on pumping. The Amazon Basin is another great example, sweat shops in both India and China, the Indonesian rain forests being felled and turned into 'Palm Oil' plantations.
Why do you think your last electrical purchase was so cheap?? ... sit down and work out the costs of all of the components and the hours of labour time to put it together, the equipment needed to press out the plastics moldings, the computer design equipment in the first place and personal to complete assembly of the whole item. This applies to clothing and many other 'consumables' also. The ACTUAL cost of manufacture probably works out to around 3 times as much as you've just paid for your item... if it's been produced in an 'under-developed' country that is. The West is piggy-backing off these countries... 2/3 of the world actually comprise these countries.
And yet we have the effrontery to flaunt our veritable and undeniable wealth and stake our claim even further into this "American Dream".
Shame. Shame.
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