Successful LOA's were vegetarians?

  I know this is a bit controversial and not everyone wants to talk about this but I really want share my thoughts on this topic. I have been here for 3 years almost and learned a lotttt, and re-read my successful stories , had a privilege to talk to some of them in private messenger and it seemed like most of them did everything reach a higher vibration to become a match for their desired outcome. Do you guys remember Feya? She was the one who posted before and after pictures and later deleted them. She emphasized on a plant based diet and staying away from social media and not just her  , if I am not mistaken Iris also followed a vegetarian diet(correct me if I am wrong). I dont eat red meat because I am naturally repelled by it but I do eat chicken , fish and eggs so i am far from a vegetarian. NOW , if we think about it , everything IS ENERGY , everything even a chair we are looking a is atoms rearranged in certain ways to shape it in a form that makes it look like a chair so it does carry a certain frequency. Wouldn't this apply to the idea of food as well? If you think about plants have higher vibration than a dead corpse right? I was reading David Wolves book and he has pictures of foods that vibrate the highest , I dont know how camera captured the lighting but some foods were really high on energy scale. We are what we eat so do you guys think following a plant based will raise or energy? I know some say , hey just bless your food before you eat I am not sure if that will change the composition of the food but nonetheless its better to do it than not do it right? I think we absorb energies all the time and I felt significantly better after closing my fb so I feel like Feya got most of it right

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  • Huum..."We are what we eat"

    What you think about the rice experiment of Masaru Emoto?

  • Here's something I read earlier that I thought was useful to this thread.

    Romans Chapter 14

    14 I am convinced, being fully persuaded in the Lord Jesus, that nothing is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for that person it is unclean. 15 If your brother or sister is distressed because of what you eat, you are no longer acting in love. Do not by your eating destroy someone for whom Christ died.16 Therefore do not let what you know is good be spoken of as evil. 17 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, 18 because anyone who serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and receives human approval.

    19 Let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification. 20 Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, but it is wrong for a person to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble. 21 It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything else that will cause your brother or sister to fall.

    22 So whatever you believe about these things keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the one who does not condemn himself by what he approves. 23 But whoever has doubts is condemned if they eat, because their eating is not from faith; and everything that does not come from faith is sin.

    So what you believe to be clean will be clean but only through complete faith. So choosing to be vegen would be especially clean because it is already universally regarded as healthier. But when you choose this path do it wholeheartedly. Feel the food healing you, feel love and gratitude for the food before, during, and after you eat it. Separate yourself from old eating habits and choose thoughts that align with your goals like "eating this ____ is making my skin radiate," "eating this _____ fuels my body with energy," "eating this ____ is sharpening my mind". Don't just change your eating habits but change your thoughts during eating. It's better to do it whilst the diet is new to you rather than when it's embedded in. Changing my thoughts about the foods I'm accustomed to eating is much more difficult than changing my thoughts on food I'm just starting out with.

    So through changing your diet and changing your thoughts, you have a massive opportunity for positive change.

  • thank youuu so much! Its funny because I met this female at my local gym , she just came up to me and said hey dear you're not doing this exercise right and showed me  a proper form. We started talking and she told me shes vegan, i mean talk about synchronicity? there are no vegan restaurants nearby and very few vegans live around my neighborhood. I feel like I'm getting all the signs  and I really want to transition completely. I used to be obsess over  chicken and honestly if I eat it now it doesn't taste the same.  I pass by fast food chain and I don't even go inside, it sounds silly but I used go all the time so this is a huge progress for me on a personal level.I can tell you that my self awareness skyrocketed and I feel more in the now than ever. The only problem I had was not feeling satisfied since animal protein is very filing and it is hard to get used especially when you first start off.  I am not fully vegetarian yet, I am definitely working my way up there.  Also, red meat was the easiest for me because I never really resonated with eating red meat, but chicken is what I loved the most and not so much anymore. I only have to give up turkey sandwiches now and I can safely call myself a vegetarian.  Oh yes, animals resist death, I love animals , I love them all , they're so helpless and loving and they dont ask for much either. I have  a cat and I love her with every cell of my being . there she is.......... 6367978256?profile=originalTy for your input

  • Hi adriana
    I practised the 7 day vegan challenge and in just those 7 days i experienced aliveness, more contentment and happiness and more controlled emotions. The thing about veganism is that dead animals have the vibrations of fear and death. No animal sacrifices themselves for being our food. Every animal dies of torture. Also the dna complexity of a cow and of humans are somehwhat close. And when we eat meat we also digest the fear and death vibration which becomes part of our vibration. If at all we are eating any sort of non plant source of food , its better to eat fish. And ofcourse the vibration of food can be changed to a degree before we eat but plants do not feel pain as they have no nervous system or brain but they respond to certain stimuli. Have you ever seen a plant respond in fear or moving back in extreme heat or fire. No but any animal when subjected to the same responds in pain.

    I have been a vegan ever since and i never had to turn back not just because i felt good but i felt good in every way especially for ethical reasons. And having a plant based diet means eating a variety of different coloured foods and no vegan diet is undernourished. Every thing that we get from a animal source is better available from a plant source. So of anyone who is thinking that we vegans are malnourished. NO we are not.

    Plants do not suffer and we get a living source as food which have live vibrations which as we eat becomes a part of our personal vibration that is why we get more energised and vibrant. This positive vibration aligns us with anything that vibrates the same. Its simple.
  •  FlowerCrown 

    thank you for the audiobook, its a great one, I love ho'oponopono practice. I understand that  we can all do our part by loving and forgiving each other but that doesn't make it better for the animals. I have a kitten and believe me she has feelings and little to no tolerance to pain. I firmly believe that all physical beings have resistance to death, some greater than others. These animals have central nervous systems and they feel pain so if they die in agony that food has a much lower vibration. I stopped consuming red meat, dairy and I feel much better but I am certainly not a vegetarian yet. I have been raised on an American diet so you can understand how much i love chicken wings and turkey sandwiches. However ever since my awareness kicked in I've been limiting these foods to 2 times a week.  I cried for days after watching cows fighting for their little ones and harrowing scenes of day-old calves being shot and hit with a hammer, it was too much to take in. I also think maternal instinct of all beings should be respected and humanity failed at doing that.  I will work on raising my vibration and shifting my focus towards the positive side of this situation but it's tough :( Ty for your input

    • All living beings enjoy living their lives.  They enjoy nature, other animals, hunting/gathering, raising families and on and on.   Cows love being in the fields and pigs love sunning themselves.   They know kindness.  This link really says it all to me.  A story about a man and his crocodile.   Kindness and love can really overcome anything.

      Personally I think that the more love you can give the closer you are to your true nature.  Where there isn't even any LOA practice that is necessary at all.   That being said I can relate that it is heartbreaking to watch those animals be brutalised, but I also feel that it is really sad for the man who beats up baby animals.

      I've loved animals my whole life.  A wolf eating a rabbit.  To me they are in their own natural environment and the rabbit and wolf live out their life somewhere familiar to them.  There is a natural understanding.

      Factory farm animals live out a life that is foreign to them IMO and honestly from what I've seen they are very confused by cruelty the towards them.  

      To me it isn't about what Esther or Jesus thinks because your own wisdom is way more valuable.  I don't feel like we should see the current knowledge out there as the end all be all. 

      I always try to think about the idea of being driven by your dreams and not problems.

  • (long winded but here we go lol)

    As far as eating or not eating meat, I personally believe that the only thing that matters is how aligned you are with your preferred diet and if you're following your own body's desires.

    There are plenty of teachers/yogis/manifesters out there who ate/eat meat.

    I have my speculations that many if not all of the teachers on The Secret probably eat some form of meat.

    Mystic LOA teacher Neville Goddard described a grueling phase in his life where he wanted to go celibate from meat, alcohol, smoking and sex until his teacher Abdullah changed his perspective and "cured" him of such "quibbles."

    Young spiritual teacher, Bentinho Massaro said he enjoys a nice steak.

    Even Esther Hicks enjoys her some Taco Bell.

    Are they any less powerful manifesters?

    Or how about the millions of lesser known manifesters out there who are achieving their dreams and enjoy a slice of pepperoni pizza or a juicy roast for supper? :P

    As far as concern/involvement for the process of killing the beasts for eating, your perspective actually reminds me of an animal-lover I heard on the audiobook Zero Limits by Joe Vitale and Haleakalā Hew Len:

    She had similar emotional distress when she came across an article about bears who were captured and tortured by poachers.

    Anyway, personally don't think about it much if at all.

    And when I do, I don't care for those thoughts, because I'm only helping to attract more of that in my experience, so instead of focusing on that sort of POV, I focus on the fact that there are plentiful farms and organizations who strive to bring meat to people through a much more humane process.

    And if I could, I'd like to support them by purchasing organic, farm-raised, grass-fed, humane, etc. meat products on a regular basis. (Not even for any tangible/moral/spiritual reasons really, when I think about it... I just would because I am attracted to the idea.)

    But I cannot at this time, so instead, I give thanks to all involved (the beast, farmers, butchers, factory workers, delivery people, supermarket staff, everyone) drop it, enjoy the meal and believe that the beast chose to become something like a strong, alpha wolf or a safe, adorable hamster in their next life lol.

    Being angry and disgusted and looking at the negative aspect isn't bringing more of what you do want (change, enlightenment, well-being). Looking towards the positive, hopeful counterpart does!

    It's kinda like when Abraham told the rain story:

    Jerry and Esther were sitting out on the porch when they first moved to Texas, and the area had been experiencing a severe drought for some time. And they had a 3 acre piece of property, and lots of beautiful oak trees on it, and all of the trees and bushes all were sort of withering a bit. It was obvious that they were wanting rain.
    And so, Esther said to us, 'Abraham, I want it to rain.' And we said, 'Why do you want the rain?' And Esther said, 'Because the trees are drying up, and the grass is brown, and the ground is parched and hard.' And we said, 'We didn't ask you why you don't want the rain. We asked you why you want the rain.'
    And it took a little bit for her to understand, and then she said, 'Oh… Because I want the ground to be all soft and moist. And I want the trees to be full of all of the water they want. And I want all the little critters in the bushes to have all the water that they want to drink.'
    And, in that moment, raindrops began falling. In that moment raindrops began falling. From a little isolated cloud that was so small you couldn't barely see it. And on the weather report that night the man reported 'There was an isolated thunderstorm over Boerne, Texas last night. The only precipitation in the state of Texas.' 

    The food industry and its morals won't change NOW, this red-hot minute, and just as you and others argue to justify how wrong and sad it is, the people who are supporting those processes probably argue right back for their own justifications.

    And I guess that's part of Abraham's perspective. That there's no right or wrong, no matter how many people argue about morals, it just is, just yin and yang, y'know? So the question is: what part of it do you want to focus on?

    You can NOW lean your consciousness and emotions in the direction of what you want:

    • the beasts living more happily and treated better before their croaking experience (that's all it is, an experience, they'll be right back like the rest of us and choose something different to experience!)
    • Be thankful to the people who choose to keep these domesticated animals for loving pets 
    • More people choosing to be vegatarian/vegan
    • Others becoming more enlightened about the industry and the choices between humane vs non-humane products.

    It then comes down to well, as a powerful creator, do you want to fight to be right and feel awful?
    Or give the possibilities of a brighter more educated future your energy? :)
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  • Lindsey, 

    I understand that wild animals catch their pray and eat but my point was that these domesticated animals tolerate insane amount of torture even before they make it to the slaughter house. If you watch some videos on youtube you will understand what I mean. Also, I am very shocked by Abraham's response and I feel like Abraham entities just have one perspective on things, they don't necessarily have  sources perspective. I was shocked by how she justified animal torture and inhumane slaughter  because apparently animals dont have self pity towards themselves. Also like I mentioned it seems like most people that were successful in manifesting were in fact vegetarians. 

    • I have watched videos on youtube, however, that doesn't mean that all places are like that. The videos that get popular on sites like youtube are usually the ones that show the worst of the worst, because that's the kind of thing that draws people's attention. And there's been a lot of scientific research done in the area of animals' sense of pain, so if you're wondering about that, I'd suggest looking that up. Also, I've read lots of success stories on manifesting things and most of them didn't mention anything about the person's diet. What they did mention was belief.

      I mean, hey, if you want to go vegetarian, that's totally up to you. I just don't believe you have to be in order to manifest things.

  • I think it depends on your beliefs. Personally, I used to feel guilty about eating meat, but then I thought to myself... is it wrong for a wolf to eat a rabbit? It's not the "cutest" or "nicest" thing in the world, but it's still life all the same. I've heard of people trying to feed their dog or cat a vegetarian diet and the animal really suffered for it. Humans can certainly be vegetarian/vegan/etc. if they want to be, but biologically, we're omnivores. So I still eat meat, though I try to buy stuff that's free-range, slaughtered humanely, etc.

    Also, some of the vegetarians I know struggle with anemia. So if you go that route, I'd say to just be careful about that.

    Honestly, I think what makes the biggest difference in the results you get is not stressing about them. When I let things go and not worry so much about the end result, that's when I see things change.

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